Teaching Your Teen to Cook with Katie Kimball

Time management, planning, cooking. These are fundamental life skills that we don't get taught in school, and if we're honest, not always at home either. Today I'm bringing back one of my favorite guests to talk about the one we haven't covered yet: teaching teens how to actually cook, not just survive on cereal and takeout.

Katie Kimball has been teaching families how to cook for 17 years, and she just launched an entire new program built specifically for teens. I wanted her back on the show because this conversation goes somewhere I didn't expect. We don't just talk about recipes. We get into why teens need a completely different approach than little kids, what to do if you think your teen already missed their window, and the mental health payoff that comes from a teen knowing they can actually feed themselves.

In This Episode, I'll Cover:

• Why it's never too late to start, even if your teen has never touched a stove.
• The three things every teen needs before they'll actually take over in the kitchen, and what happens when you skip one.
• What cooking has to do with your teen's anxiety.
• How to know if your teen is ready to go solo in the kitchen, or if they need you standing beside them first.

Grab the free Teens Cook Real Food sample lesson: https://www.raisinghealthyfamilies.com/worklife

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www.youtube.com/@KatieKimball

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Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:59

Hey friends, one of the things I'm really passionate about is making sure that not just ourselves, but our loved ones, we're all learning some of those fundamental life skills, such as planning and time management, that just aren't part of our everyday curriculum growing up, right? It's not in our classrooms. Oftentimes it's not in the workplace. Well, one of these fundamental skills along with time management and planning is actually cooking, right? Knowing how to cook food for yourself, cook food for your family. And today I am bringing back one of my favorite guests, Katie, because they have just launched an entire new program all around teaching teens to cook that is exceptional. So I'm excited for you guys to listen to our conversation about what this looks like and then actually some of the mental health benefits that teens get by learning these skills as well. Welcome to the Work Life Harmony Podcast. Guess what? You don't have to feel constantly overwhelmed, exhausted, and stressed out. There is another way. When you have the right systems and tools to plan and manage your time, you can live a life of harmony. If you're ready to stop feeling overwhelmed, this is the show for you. Hey everyone, welcome back to Work Life Harmony. Today I have a return guest. It's been a hot minute since Katie has been on the show, and I'm really excited to have her back. So we're going to be talking about something we have not talked about that I am very selfishly interested in, which is another way to help bring some harmony into the home, which is for any of you listening that have teens in your life, either your own kids, maybe grandkids, et cetera. We're going to be here talking about how to get them into the kitchen in a way that doesn't stress you out, hopefully. So, Katie, welcome back to the show. I would love for you to introduce yourself, tell everyone about your amazing work.

SPEAKER_00 2:50

Well, thank you, Megan. It is always so good to spend time with you. And I love that you said it's been a hot minute since I've been on because your daughter stuck at 12 in my brain, because that's when we met. And I know she's 16. And so that's why, that's why we need the update, right? So my kids are 21, 18, 14, and 11. And, you know, they've grown a bit since the last time I was on. We have one not teen anymore and two real teenagers. And so I'm like in the thick of it, and just right in there with it with you, with all of you, because I'm running an online business. My husband runs an online business. You know, we have kids in activities, all the school activities. Yeah. Just trying to figure out that balance. I'm right in there with you.

SPEAKER_01 3:33

How did you get into you know teaching kids to cook, getting teens in the kitchen? Love to hear your backstory on like how this became such a passion for you.

SPEAKER_00 3:43

Someone asked me at a little potluck I was at just this weekend. Like, what do you do? And how long have you been doing it? And when I said 17 years, she actually had to say, What? Excuse me. I'm like, I know. I never said when I was in high school, I would like to be an online entrepreneur when I grow up. Like, it's not, it was not a thing. So it is mind-boggling to me that I have been online for 17 years. And so that's been a process. I started out online teaching families how to stay healthy without going crazy. I was, I was working in my own life as a very, very young mom, trying to trying to figure out like what do I feed my kids? The research is all so conflicting. And I have a super tight budget and no one has unlimited time. And so I just felt like my in my image of my original blog, Kitchen Stewardship, was this mom with like frazzled hair and something is pulling on each of her appendages, and she's this big X and just like stretching. And it's the time.

SPEAKER_01 4:37

Every mom can relate to that feeling for sure.

SPEAKER_00 4:40

So for me, those were my four pillars was the time, the money, the nutrition, and the care for the environment. And I was, you know, just trying to help people find what's in the center and what kind of techniques and habits that we could develop as moms trying to feed our families well, that would not pull on all the things that would be that would actually help save your budget and your time and be nutritious, you know. So that that was my initial goal. And and as I began building this beautiful community online and I just loved interacting with with other moms. That was back in the time of blog comments and feed burner. And I don't know if you were around back then, but that makes me feel very old. It was great. I had so much interaction with other moms. And this consistent theme kept coming up. And it was, well, it was two things. It was, Katie, I really want to be healthy, but I was never taught to cook. So this is like an extra mountain before I can take the mountain of being healthy. Like I don't even know how to make food at all. And then the second, which they didn't say, but I could feel underlying was my kids are gonna have the same story. Right. Because if we're not comfortable in the kitchen, we're just we're not teaching our kids that which we are not comfortable with. Right. And I just thought, gosh, this is a cycle that's gonna continue. And in 20 years, the kids will be leaving comments on some new social media channel that doesn't exist yet. Like, oh, I wish I could be healthy, but my mom never taught me to cook. And so that's where the kids' cooking came in because I am an educator by training. That's what my fancy, expensive piece of paper says I do. Um, but I'm also I'm a teacher at heart. So I'm constantly thinking of how to teach and how to break things down. And I thought, gosh, here I am. I'm a mom of four. You know, I'm a teacher. I've been working online for at that time seven years, helping family. We weren't doing it before it was the cool thing to be doing. Like for the OG of online, yes. But that was a huge shift to really stepping into, you know, lots of people were saying, let's figure out how to be healthy together, but no one really was saying, let's teach our kids to cook. And so that was a very large shift about a decade ago in my business where we created kids cook real food. And I said, I'm gonna, I'm gonna make a course that teaches kids all the tools that they will need to make any recipe. I did I didn't want to teach a course that gave kids, I know how to make this recipe and that recipe and that recipe. It was all about confidence. It was, I'm, I'm gonna have, as a kid, I'm gonna have a toolbox of skills that I can grab any recipe offline and make it. And that's so that's what I did. And then, and then my kids grew up and I thought, oh, but teenagers and young adults actually need a few little things that weren't in my kids' class. And by a few more, I mean four times as many as it turns out. That's the teens cook real food is four times as big as kids cook real food, but it's very comprehensive. It's it's everything a young adult needs to go into their own apartment and and from store to table with you know, grocery shopping, meal planning, the whole bit, feed themselves, feed their roommates, feed their spouses and their families.

SPEAKER_01 7:35

I love this so much because it's, you know, I think one of the things you and I are both you know very similar on is that we are both teaching fundamental life skills that unfortunately aren't taught in our schools, in the classrooms, but yet they they are make it or break it skills as we venture into life. So I so appreciate that you're not just tackling the, I'm gonna teach you how to make grandma's famous, you know, chocolate chip recipe, but the skills of how do I create a plan for the week for my meals, right? What does shopping look like? How can I think about getting one thing that could be used in multiple recipes? Because those are things that really are a game changer when you're out on your own for sure. So let's pretend, if you will, we'll just let's let's create a hypothetical mom named Megan. Okay, who perhaps did not have my daughter as involved cooking as a young child, mostly because it was just not a comfortable place for her to be. Yeah, we did the, and we still do the traditional cookie decorating, you know, holiday type fun things. So let's say maybe someone's listening and they've got older kids, maybe you know, tweens, teens. Did they miss the boat? Is it too late? And does your course meet kids who maybe aren't as comfortable in the kitchen yet if they're actually embarking into teens learning how to cook?

SPEAKER_00 8:59

Oh, I have four simultaneous answers for hypothetical Megan here. First of all, you're totally not alone in in the cookie thing. And it's so funny you brought that up because for probably the last decade, I've had a webinar called Beyond Baking Cookies and saying, let's let's take this hold like get the kids in the kitchen thing beyond just the cookies. So touche, well done. Um it's it's never too late. I mean, my own husband learned to cook, you know, as a husband, as a father, and he kind of he kind of blows his mom away now. He happened to be with her and not with me on Mother's Day, no problem there. But he like made her an ala and fried potatoes for breakfast. And she was like, Well, huh? Like you never did this when you were in high school, and he kind of wanted like he just sucked it back because it was Mother's Day, but he kind of wanted to be like, hello, because you never taught me. You never raised the bar, you made my lunch through senior year of high school, mom, you know. So so if he can if he can learn, anyone can learn. And and I love the fact I for Teens Cook Row Food, I actually invited eight teenagers. I interviewed them and hired them as cast members into my home. And I made sure that very brave of you. Yes, ma'am, made sure that that some of them had very little to no experience in the kitchen. And that did result in in some cuts and some nicks, some of which were on camera. And we we left them in, not in a gory way, but in like a this is this is what happens, you know. So, like this one kid is he's peeling, he wasn't even using a knife, and he peeled his thumb and the apple went flying across the counter, and we completely left that in, including the part where I'm going, okay, I'm trying to figure out how this is. And then, but I'm able in real time to diagnose what happened, and it had to do with quite simply holding the apple with the wrong hand. Because if you're peeling toward your thumb, you need to be peeling your dominant hand should have the peel of your dominant hand should be the thumb that's catching, because then there's no, there's just not enough space to slip.

unknown 10:55

Right.

SPEAKER_00 10:56

And he was peeling toward his other hand, and there was plenty of space to whop himself. So I thought, and and our beta testing family said, that was so good. We're so glad you left that in. Because it's a it helps. Yeah, because it helps our kids know that other kids, other teens are making mistakes, and it and it just makes it so authentic that it's so okay to mess up. And they're now gonna really understand that peeling process, or you know, and it's the same if you're cutting with a parry knife toward your thumb. And so I was like, good, okay. Like this was, and that's my goal. It's just everything's very authentic, very real. The teens will say they don't like something if they don't like it. Then you know, my poor, my poor Dylan, who's like was in the video making the hamburger patties. I'm like, he's like, ew, raw meat, you know. And I said, but think of the burgers. Like now we get to eat the burgers. Like, yeah, I don't, I don't really like burgers either. And I'm like, great, I'm so glad I put you in this video. But but that's that's the joy of it, really, is that the teens watching see that they don't have to like everything, say that they don't have to enjoy it. They do, they do end up enjoying it because there's so much empowerment in understanding food. And that's really what our teens cook class is about is it's about how understanding how heat changes food and how flavors go together and what you can do with a fridge with some weird random bits and bobs and leftovers and vegetables that are like not slimy yet, but going to be, you know, and and the ability to make dinner. And so that's incredibly empowering. And so I think, you know, in this, in this instance, in this hypothetical Megan, where, you know, your hypothetical child maybe is a tween or a teen and doesn't have a lot of experience. The good thing is that they're capable right away.

SPEAKER_01 12:41

You know, it's it's a very different mindset and a very different Yeah, you're not dealing with a three-year-old that doesn't have the physical, you know, capabilities for the three-year-old has a ton more intrinsic motivation, which reduces that challenge for the parent.

SPEAKER_00 12:54

Right. But they have but the 12-year-old has a lot more capability where they're going to be able to pick up on those skills very quickly. We just have to work on that motivational part. But I'm thinking, I'm thinking of one of our beta testers, Kelly, has two sons and they're 13 and 17. And she said it so perfectly. She said, I watched my two boys take this course and they're coming at it with very different perspectives. 17-year-old being a year away from launch was very serious. And he's looking at it as like, this is foundational training for life. Yeah. And he very much was imagining himself in his first apartment or his college dorm or whatever. And then the 13-year-old is like, food is awesome. I love eating food. Let's make some, you know? So totally different, but yet both very valid forms of motivation. And they both loved learning how to cook for their own reasons.

SPEAKER_01 14:16

Oh, now you mentioned empowerment, which I love that, you know, this definitely is a very empowering skill for them to have. Are there other benefits, whether it's mental health, personal, you know, accomplishments that come along with empowering our children, our teens to actually get in and learn these skills?

SPEAKER_00 14:36

Oh, you're gonna ask open-ended, are there other benefits? Do you have two hours? Not quite, but well, let's let's hit the top ones. Okay. Well, we've got to start with mental health. I mean, parents, when we when we look at those stats on mental health in our kids and our teens, we know that one third of our teens are clinically anxious or depressed. Over half of them have anxious thoughts on a daily basis. Oh, like my heartbreaks, right? I I don't want that to be your kids. And so what is the anti-anxiety plan? What's the antidote to having anxiety? Well, the the antidote to being anxious is being confident. The antidote to being anxious is having self-worth, right? And and the antidote to being anxious is knowing that you can take action, that you have agency in your own life. And so when we as parents are doing everything for our kids, whether it's doing their laundry, cooking, paying for their gas, et cetera, et cetera, we unfortunately and unintentionally, we're doing it in love, but unintentionally, we're setting up a structure that sort of tells the the kid or the teen in this case, I will do it for you. And you don't have to do anything, and therefore you don't know how to do anything. And therefore, if anything big were to happen, you probably can't do anything about it. Like that's that's anxiety waiting to happen. And so when we can give our kids real skills, like, here, now you can you can make food, you can nourish other human beings, you can keep yourself nourished, you have no chance of starvation, right? Yeah, that that is an anti-anxiety tool. And when kids make something with their hands, you know, we talk a lot about sports and how sports increases confidence and teamwork and all that stuff. And that's true, but that's only great for a certain subset of of body types and personalities. Right. Everybody eats. So I think cooking is the great equalizer, you know, that the band geeks, the jocks, the math kids, like they all have to eat. There is no differentiation of boys versus girls either.

SPEAKER_01 16:27

Like cooking is just cooking. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:29

Exactly. And so everyone, everyone needs to do it, and everyone can do it. And everyone can do it well because there's so many, so many great ways to cook. You know, we can have our very type A recipe followers, and we can have our free spirits who are like, let's throw some stuff in a pen and see what comes out. Like it all works. And and again, and that's very much what I do in Teens Cook Real Food. We have the recipes, but we also have like, here's how you're flexible, here's how you adapt things for food allergies, here's how you throw some stuff in a pan, see how it works, you know, with a greater chance of it working well because you have some skills. And what happens when kids make food and other people eat it, is there's an immediate feedback loop, even without words. No one, no one has to say, good job. You don't, you don't have to, because you can see the face. You can see you can hear the sigh of pleasure, right? And and you know that you have now kept another human being alive. There's no greater goal, right? There's no greater success. And so that that feeling, that building up of that confidence absolutely helps kids reduce that anxiety. Besides that, there's a study out of UCLA a couple of years ago that found that teens with a strong sense of purpose have a reduction in anxiety. It's a correlative factor. And so, again, what what's a strong sense of purpose? Sure, it can be sports, academics, all those things, but cooking is the great equalizer. And what what better sense of purpose than I can keep my family and myself alive? Yeah, I can do this confidently. It's pretty powerful. And so that's where, and that's that's really just that's the tip of the iceberg, really, when it comes to mental health. And so, parents, if you're thinking, this seems hard, my kid seems too old, they'll figure it out as young adults. I really want you to keep this goal in mind. It's not a participation ribbon here. It's like everyone can actually get the trophy, and it's a real trophy because your kids feel better about themselves and they feel like they have a place and a and a purpose.

SPEAKER_01 18:24

Yeah, that's so important. For you know, let's say you've got teens who maybe haven't been that involved in the kitchen. What do you think is a good, is a good starting point? Is it to cook together or is it to empower them to kind of own it themselves?

SPEAKER_00 18:43

Getting getting kids and teens in the kitchen really has a three-legged stool of goals. And so those three legs are they have to have the motivation, which is the tough one for teens. They have to have the skills, the actual so they have to learn something. Like it would be terrible to say, hey, guess what? Every Wednesday, you want I want you to make dinner because it's gonna increase your confidence. It's gonna be. Yeah, right. You're right. You we can't just like throw them in without the tools they need. That's going to increase their anxiety. So motivation, the skills, and the the expectation and the routine. There has to be some consistency so that they know when it's going to be their turn, whether that's making their own lunches or making their own breakfast or making dinner for the family once a week. If you can get all of those three things in place, good things happen. So, where do you start? You got to start with a little bit in all of the areas. So, first you need to figure out what will motivate your teen. And I go back to Kelly and her two kids. And it's if your kid is on that upper range, 16 and up, then future casting is my recommendation. In other words, talk about what it will be like to be in that first apartment and get them imagining it and get them thinking, what am I going to need to know to not freak out? You know, I won't be able to open the cupboards in the fridge and they'll magically be full of food like they are here. Yeah. I will need some skills to go hunt and gather the food at Costco or wherever, you know, right? And so ideally, now it doesn't happen for all kids, but at least like kids who are slightly conscientious to highly conscientious are gonna think, oh, I do need some skills, you know, and and that's a good nugget of motivation. Cooking what you want to eat is a great nugget of motivation. So, particularly if you do have one of those tweens who says, Yeah, I don't like this meal, I don't like dinner, right? Rather than letting it push your button of anger, let it push your button of intentionality and say, Oh, well, I'm I'm sorry, this meal wasn't to your liking. Do you know? You know how you can for sure get a meal that you like?

SPEAKER_01 20:41

You can make it.

SPEAKER_00 20:42

You can make it yourself. And I know I always have that like deeply sarcastic drip when I say that line. Try to keep that a little lighter. When you actually say it, like prepare yourself. Because the because the goal is really like when you choose, when you cook, you get to eat what you want. Yeah, and that's great. So that's another piece, you know, another motivational aspect to try. A third one is is the joy of hearing other people's comments about your food. So a lot of times, and this goes from two to 22. If the, you know, one of the early times that your teen or twen is making something, if you can have other people eat it who are non-immediate family members. So whether that's having grandma and grandpa over, doing it for a potlock or a party, that that feedback of other people saying, wow, this is good. That's you've made that, that's awesome. Kick butt, you know, that's really helpful. And that'll create that motivational loop to come back. So you got to get the motivation right. You got to get the skills. And so that's, I think that's kind of what you're asking, is like, yeah, where do we start on the skills? And that's that's a that's a huge target. And you can shoot anywhere, and anywhere you hit is a good answer, which is great. So could you start with a very simple meal that they could make on their own, especially if they do have like a few skills in the kitchen? Sure. Can you start with co-creating something? I have this whole little lesson I call the web of pizza, and saying, like, oh, like what would you want to make? If the kid says pizza, you go, okay, you put kind of pizza in the middle, and I start drawing all the skills you need to make pizza. Well, do you know how to do you know how to knead bread dough? Do you know how to measure flour? Do you know how to use the oven? You know, this and that and the other thing. And so you can look at a recipe like maybe homemade pizza and say, okay, this is, you know, this is 11 skills. Maybe you don't want to do that all at once. Why don't we make pizza together? I'll put you in charge of the dough. And I'll do the rest. And then the next, and you just kind of gradually release the pieces of the recipe. So that that can be really helpful, especially for our tweens, our younger, you know, our younger kids or even our younger teens, 13, 14, they might need some co-teaching. But I would keep that, remember that third leg of the stool is the expectation and the routine. And so that's really important. And that's what you teach is how do we how do we make this regular so that it's not this random, like once every nine weeks, it feels like my mom's asking me to make dinner. Like, yeah, like this came out of nowhere. Yes, like that's not gonna actually build skills and confidence. So you do need to get it into the routine and say that this is an expectation as part of being in this household.

SPEAKER_01 23:08

But with that, and I know one of the things I love that this ties back to, because I know you're a fan of Amy McCready as well from Positive Parenting Solutions. I always love the reframe I learned from her years ago on using the term contributions instead of chores. And so, you know, maybe cooking dinner once a week, it's not a punishment, it's not a chore, it's just this is your contribution to how we eat and other. Nights, other people are contributing by cooking dinner that way as well. I just I'm always love that language. I think it it really reduces a lot of friction often for sure.

SPEAKER_00 23:38

And when they do cook dinner, two ways to like triple down on that idea of contribution. One is make sure you're pouring on the gratitude, you know, for for whoever cooks. If that's you, if that's your spouse, if it's your kids, it's oh, thank you for this meal. And and make sure that like that's very much luckily, I have built that. That's a part of our family culture. So the siblings all tend to thank the cook. And then two, whoever cooks doesn't have to do any cleaning. So that's that's a big one. And just like, oh, okay, that was kind of cool. Now I'm finished at the end of the meal and I can go read my book.

SPEAKER_01 24:08

Yep. Yeah, I know that always my my daughter will always pick helping the cooking over the cleaning and anytime. Yeah. Yeah. It's like I'm with you on that. So can you tell us a little bit about this course that you've done? Is this something that really is set up that the teens themselves could just sit and watch it, or is this something that is intended for parents to be doing together?

SPEAKER_00 24:31

Definitely independent for teens. Yes. Our kids' cooking class is intended for families, for a for a parent or an adult to be guiding. This is this is very much for teens. And in fact, it's not even linear top to bottom. I I built this with the teenage brain in mind, and the teenage brain strongly desires independence, choice, agency, right? And so they can say, I want to learn to make French fries and burgers, you know, or I want to learn to make mac and cheese. And they can just go to that recipe. And once they're in that lesson, it will say, if you, if you don't know how to use raw meat safely for the burgers, for example, then here, then you go back to this lesson. If you don't know how to turn on the real world, correct, you go back to this lesson. And so they can kind of, again, they can kind of like throw the dart at the target that they want, and that target will web them in to the skills they need to make the food that they want to make.

SPEAKER_01 25:22

Yeah. And I think the way that you've structured that is such a game changer because yeah, I can't imagine. And I mean, even I wouldn't want to have to learn 32 fundamental, I'm just making up a number, 32 fundamental cooking skills before I could actually make something, right? So I love that you have this, that they're learning as they're actually implementing it and they get to produce something right away instead of being in learning mode for a month before they're actually in there making anything. So I think that is a is a huge selling point to the way that you've that you've built that and it's a real differentiator. So I appreciate that so much. Nice. So where's a great place for people to learn about this program?

SPEAKER_00 26:04

We've got a free sample of our teens cooking class at raisinghealthyfamilies.com/slash work life, just for your folks. And so they can go there and they'll get they'll get currently our lesson on making up a soup. And so what you'll see in that is two teens and me literally live, not live, but like on camera, edited, we're making up a soup and they're making decisions about what seasonings go in. They're making decisions about, you know, what kind we don't even know what kind of soup we're making when we start the video. But what's cool about this one is that you'll see a ton of other skills that they've learned. So in that soup, we have some shredded chicken because they have cooked a whole chicken. They have picked the chicken, which was awesome to see modern teenagers.

SPEAKER_01 26:46

I didn't learn that till I think my 40s, honestly.

SPEAKER_00 26:49

That's one of the most hilarious videos because I bet. Like we even called in our extra teen who is just supposed to be watching and be like, you have to get your hands in here too. And he comes up and he goes, That's terrifying. So that's fantastic. So they'll see like the shredded chicken. And so you see, like, oh, that's like three other skills there. And then there's some beans that they've already cooked from dry beans. So that's another handful of skills. And they've already learned knife skills. And so you can kind of see how that web works. Like, oh, here we are making up a soup, but we're pulling in like a dozen other little skills that they've already learned. And it's really cool and it's super easy. And so a kid, you know, the idea isn't necessarily that you sit down with your teen and watch it. The idea is that you as the adult get the gist, but you may, you, you know, you can't. You can sit down with your teen, they can watch it. You can print the actual recipe that we ended up making. And then, you know, your teen could just make that recipe and actually, like you said, have something that they've produced at the end of even just this sample, because it's not a it's not a difficult thing to do, especially if you just have a can of beans and a, you know, right. Right. Can of chicken or whatever.

SPEAKER_01 27:56

Oh, I love that you are really putting the foundations in place to empower this next generation to go out on their own and, you know, do better than I'll say my mom had me in the kitchen a lot, but I enjoyed it. But still, I could have done better than ramen noodles for a long time. But these are all, again, skills that we slowly learn over time. So I so appreciate that this is a new offering that you have, really focusing on the teens and the fact it's something they can watch and they're seeing kids their own age in there doing it, which for me, again, I think just hammers home that point of yeah, we can do this, right? It's not an adult teaching a teen, it's other teens actually in the kitchen doing the work. So I just I am super excited about this. I know we are gonna benefit from it in our home. I just want to thank you so much. And guys, we're gonna have the links to that in the show notes. So make sure you go check that out. And it's just, it's never too soon to get them in there learning these life skills.

SPEAKER_00 28:50

100%. And you'll have to let me know how hypothetical Megan does with this advice.

SPEAKER_01 28:55

I will. And Katie, for all of our listeners here, where is the best place that they can really start consuming all of the amazing knowledge and content that you have out there?

SPEAKER_00 29:05

I mean, I think you should start with the sample of Teens Cook, which is at raisinghealthyfamilies.com slash work life, and then you'll, you know, you'll be kind of in my world. If you're a social media person, I am on Instagram at Raising Healthy Families. But I go on fits and spurts because I'd rather be cooking and with my kids than taking pictures of them and telling other people about it. So perfect. Thank you so much for being here today.

SPEAKER_01 29:29

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